5th Journey - August 11th, 1984

I left the meeting room and went to the door. I knew I would find ERSAM. We went to the East and I made sure to take his hand. I don't remember having seeing it before. When I got his hand realized was similar to ours, although a bit larger and it was transmitting me security. Curiously, I looked on it and realized it was greenish, covered with fine scales on top.

Once we approached the sea the transparent capsule appeared covering us and we got submerge in the water in a different way. We submerged with the feet at front. Immediately, we followed at great velocity doing a zigzag and always with the feet at front. I knew we were following north and submerged in the Atlantic. I had never traveled in that position. I understood we were following a route heading to find certain point. Came to my mind three words: Atlantis, Sargasso Sea and the Bermuda Triangle. Immediately, we stopped in front of a transparent and tilted wall that was very difficult to distinguish. I felt we approached it when I saw it to spin. Immediately I perceived we were at another place, in another dimension. I didn't achieve to see clearly all the things. I don't know how to define if it was water or mist, what I only know is that I saw great amounts of objects similar to ships and airplanes. I got the feeling that they were kept there for long time, like if that was a great hardware. ERSAM, who was at my side, told me and I barely felt that it was time to come back. The return was faster than a blink of eyes. Nothing else happened.

Back to the table of the meeting I was told if ERSAM was still there. I answered that I was not seeing him. They wanted to do some questions. I suggested them to do questions, since he would answer them for sure in case he was there.

1) Is the history of marine monsters seen in the Brazilian littoral true?

ERSAM: The true is that the atomic experiences have produced so many monsters that you have not to have doubts that those transformed due to radiation and are in the deeps of the ocean.

2) We are willing to publish a book regarding the Intraterrestrial City visited by one of our mediums in astral journeys. We would like to know if you agree on that publication and if you can collaborate with us, through the medium, giving us information about your work.

ERSAM: Since the very beginning that has been our aim: divulging and, avoiding offend you, to warn about the danger of both the atomic and nuclear experiments. The idea to divulge these contacts, whatever is presented, it is also our purpose.